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be in the guest spot. >> plus, i have a new book out. you're going to love it almost as much as you love "the cycle." question for you. can better outreach to people of color save the gop? that's what the rnc is placing its bet on. rnc chair reince priebus rolled out the 200 plus recommendations of the so-called 2012 autopsy report. wait, autopsy? did they die? any way, what has the gop learned from its campaign failures? a weak message, terrible ground game and excluding the voters is not how you win elections. that steve core knacky is 1-1. they hope to reverse the massive losses. over 6%, i'm told, of black voters back mitt romney.
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6%, and that number seems high to me. you cannot win with number like that especially when people of color will soon be the majority in this country. also, our plans to improve communication wet voers while also cutting the number of presidential debates. why let you know what you really think. they want to move the convention earlier in the summer so they can tap into cash sooner. that's a great idea. and there is a push to close the digital media and tech gaps and all this sounds easily achievable if you listen to preebus. >> we know we have problems. we've identified them and we're implementing the solutions to fix them. to be clear, our principles are sound. we will do a better job of connecting with people, to our principles, showing how we can help every american climb the economic ladder. especially in communities we haven't been in a long time, but b what it means to be paubl. the rnc cannot and will not
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write off any demographic, community or region of this country. it all goes back to what our moms used to tell us. it is not just what you say. it is how we say it. >> i heard that from my mom all the time. he celebrates his 41 birthday today. i salute my brother but i doubt his birthday wish will come true. we start with washington wur over chief for time, how are you? >> i'm great. how are you? >> we're great. the gop is really good at language. if they're going to try this outreach and still use words with narratives that matter, that are negative. words like illegal immigrant, phrases like makers and takers, anger babies and engaining in offensive policies like immigrant enforcement instead of compassionate policies, they're really just working on the box and not changing the actual pizza. >> that's right.
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look. i think that priebus, mentioned the phrase self-deportation which was an air ball of a line that romney used in the primaries and said once hispanic voters hear that, they tune you out entirely. what is interesting is that there is a lot of talk about the language and the presentation. some substance on immigration reform. but to me, what i see is the fundamental identity of the party right now is that it is anti-tax and once big cuts in the size of government. and that has not changed. and through the whole budget wars we've been seeing, the sequester, i think this came up the last time i was here. the economic conservatives, the low tax, small government conservatives have established their supremacy. they have beaten out the national security hawks who didn't want to see cuts to defense. i think this is an example where they're beating the social conservatives who aren't ready for a shift in gay marriage. opposition within the party to
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gay marriage is substantial and they don't want a more liberalized immigration policy. so the one thing that is still here is low taxes, including on the wealthy, and deep cuts to government. i think that is a fundamental problem for the party. it cause them problems with all kinds of groups. there is only so much you can do when you change the language as long as you hold on to the tax and spending cuts policies. >> you touched on immigration policy. i think lawmakers in washington on the republican side see it as essential to change on immigration. john mccain, marco rubio, et cetera, are all behind that. the rank and file folks are not behind that at all. they've been sole this line this is amnesty. these people are takers for years. when you have somebody like ann coulter go to cpac and say i'm a one issue voter against amnesty. that continues to fuel the anti-compassionate potential for immigration reform. how are they going to change on this issue when the leadership is going in one direction and
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the rank and file and the media leaders are going in another? >> you know, i don't know. i think that's a civil war that is, hasn't really been fought out in earnest. i think it will get worse for republicans on immigration before it gets better. i've said this before. nothing sticks with me more than from my travels in the primary trail in the 2012 campaign than the intensity. primary voters in iowa had over immigration. i think a lot of people in the cities don't fully appreciate it. you see it firsthand. people are so upset about it. they believe some frankly crazy things about what's happening. they don't understand the fact that the tide of leave immigration in this country has turned. so i think it is a fight that has yet to be really had. but again on this issue, i think that this rnc document makes a lot of good points. to me it is the voice of the kind of big donor wealthy establishment that cares most about low taxes and cutting the size of government. and it is making these other
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issues secondary. and i think that's a prescription for that kind of tea party, michele bachmann/sarah palin crowd to start roaring again. i'll be fascinated to see the reaction. >> i think that's an interesting point about the rise of tea party economics. the total hostility, any notion, any concept of a welfare state f of the problem that was outline, basically the problem, we always hear about the demographic problem. the majority, nonwhites and young people and single women, if you look at this group and its basic attitude toward government it favors a more activist government. it favors the safety net. if the republican party wants to appeal to this rising coalition, anything it does will automatically alienate its current coalition. do you see any way to merge those two?
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>> look, it is a tough sell. i think you put your finger on a really big problem. i would add that a lot of republicans are not on board with this at all. i was e-mailing with someone i'll describe as having been closed to the romney campaign who said he thought the document was good. it has a lot of good ideas but the fundamental lesson he draws from the campaign was that you can't beat an incumbent president if you're in a messy primary. that it is really hard notton to outraise an incumbent president who has fundraising advantages by virtue of that office. but as long as one side is fighting a primary and the other isn't, the one who has a primary is probably going to get creamed. his idea was we probably don't need to build from the bottom up. we just need a better set of circumstances. i think there isn't even unity in the party on whether all this is necessary. >> you know, i was very skeptical of the whoa idea of this self-autopsy done by the
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rnc and some hired hands that seemed a little washington insider to me. but i have to say, i was really impressed with the scope of this report. it is big. as reince said, we don't have one problem so we don't have one solution. it touches a number of issues. and does wade into policies in some points, even though that's not generally the purview of the rnc. my biggest fear was that the rnc and the gop and the romney campaign had been so insulated over the past year of sort of refusing to see the writing on the wall. and it seems to me there are some serious acknowledgements in here. i'm just wondering what you think the consultant class in d.c. will say about a lot of this? they have been used to doing things their way for a very long time. >> right.
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well, i think you'll have a division. there is some of the sent i am that i just mentioned and i think the romney people have a little bit of a personal stake in making this case. >> a little self-serving. and i think that much as the democratic party was say, around 2004 after kerry lost and democrats threw their hands up in the air. they were looking for a new generation, a new wave of consultants who could really change the tone of the party and emphasize some new principals. and i think that worked effectively for them. the one thing i would say is i think you're right that there is some substance here. a lot of it is surprisingly impressively candid. when i hear this about outreach, the $10 million ad campaign. i have to be honest, i roll my eyes. i was reminded of michael steele when he took over, i guess it was in 2009. he vowed he would reach out to
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everybody all over the country including his words, not mine, one armed midgets. that was his pleng to talk to everyone in america and stay republican party is not what you think it is. to go back to the point i was making at the opening, i think as long as republicans are where they are on higher taxes on the wealthy, there is only so much of a conversation you can have with some of those people who think that the party is one thing. you're trying to convince them it is something else. this outreach stuff, opening branch offices, a lot of that is phony baloney. >> if fairness, i don't know off the top of my head how the republican party has done with one armed midgets. >> you don't. they might have done really well. >> 52%. if anyone would know, kornacki would know. i was impressed with the candor and the scope of this document. not only did it have the messaging stuff which it did. it did get into some policy areas and one thing that really
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struck me was some comments that were made about the republican party's position vis-a-vis corporations. let me read a little of that. we have to blow the whistle at corporate malfeasance and attack corporate welfare. we should speak out when ceos receive tens of thousands but middle class workers haven't received in years. can they move to that place? >> well, i'm skeptical that they can. that is one of the examples where this report kind of wades into the economic philosophy of the party and where it is problematic. for openers i would note they do talk about corporate welfare. it has not been a taboo phrase. it has been an easy sound bite for a lot of republicans of so they're already doing that. the question of ceo bonuses and pay, yeah. they're putting that finger
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rhetorically on something on the right button. but i just think that again, look at where the narrative of this party over the last several months has been. the economic conservatives who are very pro business of they want low taxes including on the wealthy themselves don't want regulations. they don't think the government has any business telling corporations how they should be run. i don't see any willingness, unlike on immigration refor that and to a lesser sentence on gay marriage. i see no willingness to open the doors among the rank and file lawmakers and presidential prospects the party has in the mix right now. >> all right. thank you very much for stopping by. >> thanks for having me. up next, arizona at it again. the supremes are hearing arguments on a new law that civil rights advocates. it is getting hot in the court and in the spin.
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it's what you see is what you get food. guten tag. greetings earthlings. how you doin'? hola. sup. yello. howdy. what's crackalackin? it is great we express ourselves differently. if we were all the same, life would be boring. so get to know people who aren't like you. you'll appreciate what makes us different. the more you know. the supreme court heard arguments today in a dispute over arizona's controversial proposition 200. it requires people to provide proof of citizenship when they register to vote. federal law only requires them to state under penalty of perjury that they are in fact american citizens now. which side wins this battle? the case come against back drop of states seeking stricter rules
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on showing i.d.s to vote. let's bring in nbc news justice correspondent pete williams to break this down for us. what do we know? >> you're right. it is a conflict between the state and the federal law. the question for the supreme court is who gets to say what arizona will ask for? the federal government has a law that actually predates the arizona law. it is ten years older. it is called the motor voter law. the national registration law to be more specific. it says you can register in one of three ways. you can walk in and do it the old-fashioned way or the states must treat your application for a driver's license as a request to register to vote. or you can mail in this form. it is the last two that are the questions. can arizona ask for additional information beyond what's on the form? check i'm a u.s. citizen under penalty of perjury. i state that i am. arizona says that's nice but we need to be able to prove whether somebody is a citizen or not. and so we want to ask for more proof. like a driver's license number
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or a copy of a passport. what the groups challenging the law say is that it is aimed at suppressing the vote by gnarlized citizens. there's a problem that some aren't there excepting on when they were issued. the naturalization, you're not supposed to photo copy it and mail it in. so they say for naturalized citizens, it takes two or three time to do this and they should not have to go through. this three other states have a similar situation so they're seeing what they do. there is a fundamental principle at stake here. the constitution says, states determine the time, place and manner of a electing officials. but the congress can override those rules when it come to federal elections. that's the question. who gets to answer this question? who gets to say? >> okay, thanks, pete, for weighing in. we appreciate it. so let's spin.
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putting sensitivities on voter registration aside, not something you three will degree to, i'm sure. but i'm going to put them aside and agreeing off the top of this segment that this is sort of bad pursuit for republicans. this is not a winning argument for republicans to make. putting all of that aside, the politics, i always think, and it is worth pointing out this was adopted in 2004 before obama. this was not a response to president obama in arizona. so i think it is worth putting that aside. i always find it interesting and sort of telling when legislators are activists try to go around enforcing existing law. and the reason for that are political and potentially even cultural. but for example, on this one, the requirement, the existing laws require u.s. citizenship in
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the case of voting in any federal election. requiring proof of that is the objection, the contention here. i'm not sure that we should be trying to go around existing law and finding out ways to say, you don't have to prove it. we'll take you on your word. if it is hard for someone to prove, let's make it easier. let's fix the problem that way so that both sides are satisfied. say, okay, we don't want to put a single group out of order here and force then to do something that everyone else doesn't. let's make it easier for them to prove. >> that's an interesting perspective on it. we have a solution for a nonproblem. the state in this case is unable to produce one instance of a noncitizen attempting to register to vote by the federal post card form. if there is no problem, why are we trying to solve a nonproblem? well, because the gop needs to suppress votes. maybe not about obama, but about seeing the demographic trends are not moving in the direction
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of the gop which is 90% white. we have an explosion of hispanics and latinos, that won't lead to a good future for the gop in arizona. so we have to suppress that. so you have a world where nobody is being prosecuted for this crime but we must create new laws to stop problems that are not actually happening. this is what happens when you call people illegal immigrants. they are undocumented workers. it is a civil infraction, not a criminal infraction. when you define them as illegal immigrants, you're defining their entire being around criminality. that makes it easier to say what other crimes are they committing? what other laws do we need to create? they're not takers. they are makers. they are paying pay roll tax, 75% of them, and not accessing those benefits. these are people who are creating into the system and not benefiting at all and creating them as criminals when we don't treat martha stewart as an illegal business woman is a bit
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crazy. >> to pete's point, this law will have broader implications for the amount of monkey business that states can get into with their voter registration process. i have to say republicans for the long term, if they're serious about the rnc's new plan and booklet thingy and petitioning to groups, they ought to be cheering for this law to be struck down. no person is going to vote for a party that thinks they don't want to see them at the ballot box. so i think by striking this law down, you would you they eliminate some of the temptation for the electoral math in republicans' favor. >> there's an interesting downer to that. at least potential counter. a social scientist. the conventional wisdom, the republican party is in big trouble because the country is getting less and less white. so mitt romney won 59% of the white vote. 59% of the white vote translated
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into a 5 million vote nationally. the idea is the less white it gets, the more trouble the republicans are in unless they start appealing to latinos and african-american voters. he sent a pair of latino men in their 20s to the liberal suburbs of boston. in the in the last year. he had them go to the all-white suburbs and have them stand at a commuter station. they were speaking spanish. in many cases, leases the only two latino men that these commuters were seeing all day. and he surveyed the attitudes of these commuters. these white commuters before and after they had these four-minute daily interactions with latino men. their attitude toward immigration got much more conservative. suddenly they were much more in favor of sending children of illegal imgranlts home. suddenly they were much more in favor of haranger immigration
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laws. and it reminds me, when for instance, when you had civil rights in the 1960s. the democratic party in the south was, it was the home of every white voter in the south. when you had civil rights in the national party embraced it and it was the voting right, they began joining the democratic party. there was this outflow of whites so now in a state like mississippi, it is 90% of white people will vote republican. the theory being offered here is that actually the less white the country gets, maybe the more republican white voters will get so that 59% could climb into the 60s or something. and republicans may not have the huge demographic nightmare. it is interesting. >> a huge extrapolation. >> by no means definitive. straight ahead, turn that frown upside down. the economist is out with a report on our economy's saying that our economy is in better shape than you think. we're back with that in a moment. first, i want to give a shout
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according to gallup polling, americans are more pessimistic about this country now than at any time in the last half century. we're not alone in that thinking. the world economic forum places the u.s. as only the seventh fittest economy in the world. we're ranked 34th in primary education and health care. our macro economic environment is 111th. that cannot be right. our next guest says the notion that we're losing our competitive edge is widespread and pervasive, it is not necessarily correct. ed mcbride is the washington bureau chief for the author of
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the special ro on america competitiveness. welcome, sir. >> thank you for having me. >> would you like to tell me, and i welcome the message that things are not as bleak as we've been told. please. talk us off the ledge. >> well, as you said, there is a the love hand wringing, a lot of reports. these dire statistic that's seem so dreadful. it is almost impossible to remember they're true. 111th? that's to do with the size of the national debt basically. but what all these gloomy sort of hand wringing accounts neglect, they focus on washington and on gridlock and on the failure to resolve all the questions about the budget and they don't look at what's going on in the rest of the country. the good news is, that in the rest country, people aren't sitting around waiting for politicians in washington to solve their problems. they're getting on and addressing the kinds of issues that people in washington keep thinking will hold the economy back. so they're addressing the problems with education.
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they're addressing the problems with infrastructure. they're encouraging innovation. they're changing the way government regulations are written and encouraging investment and helping the economy along. of course the failure is still holding the country back. there's a lot that will help the economy. and it provides a model. should washington ever get its act together, there are lots of great ideas out there for how to revive the economy. >> one of the things the report mentions that is happening at the federal level, continued investment in r&d. which you say very important to the future economic growth and the country. i'm wondering if the sequester cuts will damage that. and there was an op ed from the department of energy's national laboratories. it was titled, the sequester is going to devastate u.s. science research for decades. they said this drop in funding
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will force to us cancel all new programs and research initiatives, probably for at least two years. is that going to put a damper on our future prospects? >> if the sequester holds in its current form for the ten years that it is supposed to, then yes, the answer is there will definitely be horrible consequences. i think before we go to the bad news, you need to give a little context. the good news is that america has been investing in research and development. it has been investing in science and technology at a very high rate. in 2009, thanks partly to the stimulus, the u.s. investment matched the previous high at the space race at 2.9 of gdp. that amount of money being poured into public and private research. so we've come down a little
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because of the budget cuts already put in place and we've come down much more because of the sequester. that speaks exactly to what i was argue ewing in my special report. the federal government tends to either not really help or actively get in the way. in this inassistance it would be actively making things worse if it started. and theoretically neither party wants that. you hear the president say all the time that investments in scientific research are so important. and even on the republican side, there is an acknowledgement that this isn't the top of their list to cut. so hopefully we won't go ten years at the levels laid out in the sequester and those ill effects won't happen. if they did, it would definitely be damaging. >> i want to get this one in. you write from a competitiveness standpoint. you're expecting and you think it is necessary that we have immigration, overhaul of the
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immigration laws. obviously there is a lot of flux. what do you think are the most important things we would need? >> as far as i'm concerned there is no such thing as bad immigration. i don't want to say that anything is unimportant. immigrants get up and go. they bring innational networks. i don't want to say we can leave any part of the immigration reform out. clearly the bit again where this bipartisan agreement is the stem piece. the skills workers. there doesn't seem to be any question that they contribute massively to the economy. anybody with an advanced degree, it doesn't have to be from an american university, although there are plenty of those people. but anybody with advanced degrees in science, math, engineering, any technical field. if more of them were allowed to come to america or even the ones who are here for whatever reason
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after studies, were allowed to stay, that would provide a huge boost to the economy. that seem to me essential. >> indeed. thank you very much. we're about 30 minutes before the closing bell ask the markets are in turmoil as cyprus contemplates a tax. it owes the eu central bank $7.6 billion to keep its banks from collapsing. it is closely tied to greece' economy. because of that, shared in its financial crisis. e.u. leaders say it is a money laundering hub. the government wants to tax accounts to come one the money. so if you already paid taxes on income or whatever will be taxed again and taxed hard. nearly 7%. meaning you'll have an $8,700 tax levied on you.
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if you managed to sock away more than $100,000 euros, you'll be forced to hand over at least 13 grand. banks in cyprus are closed today and will stay closed until thursday as parliament closed on the plan. nearly all atms are closed as the people withdraw as much as they can. now there are fears bank runs elsewhere and others, imagine if it happen here. what would we do? cowboy bill says close my accounts, bye bank! share your thoughts with us and cowboy bill. up next, a sign of the time. did you know, women and girls now outperform the guys at every level of schooling? why are women still earning less? we'll explore that question and so much more. [ male announcer ] when it comes to the financial obstacles
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hello, female children. allow me to inspire you with a story about a great female scientist, polish born, french educated, madam curie. co-discover he of radioactive, she was a hero of science until her hair fell out, her vomit and stool became filled with blood, and she was poisoned to death by her own discovery. with a little hard work, i see no reason why that can't happen to any of you. >> wow! with inspiration like that, no wonder those girls aren't terribly interested in science. everyone knows, boys are the brainia brainiacs, right? as madam curie might say, au contrary. it is the women leading the way. women have come to not only outnumber their counterparts in college with you earn more bachelors degrees by a wide
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margin. 30% compared to just 22% of men. it is and not just undergrad. women now earn more ph.d.s and master's degrees, too. here with us during women's history month, professor from ohio state university, claudia buckman. she is author of the rise of women. claudia, i want to start with this question. do we have a, quote, boys crisis in this country? because that's something we hear about. some say yes because they're not doing as well in school. others say no because they're still doing quite well professionally. what's your take on that? >> well, i do think we have to pay attention toot fact that men's college completion rates have been pretty much stagnant for the last several decades. the u.s. used to be, to have the most highly educated population in the world. and we've slipped down to 12th in that ranking. so our book talks about how a large part of that problem is
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due to men's, the fact that men are not getting many more college degrees than they got 30 years ago. part of that problem is absolutely due to boys performance in middle and high school. and even earlier in school. so we think there is cause for concern. we don't think it is a zero sum game. we don't think that women are doing so well in school, should be seen as a problem. but we want to find policies and solutions to support both girls and boys, to get them as far as they can in school today. because we're living in a knowledge economy where we need more highly educated people. >> and i think part of what's happening, is that a lot of young women will need multiple degrees to insulate them from the sexes and they'll experience. and they're getting those degrees and they understand the education is going to be power for them. >> absolutely. i think the first generation of women to really get more college degrees than men was that
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generation of women who many of whom saw their mothers, for example, going through divorces and experiencing financial devastation in the process. part of that was them being i said should they get divorced. part was changing expectations and norms for women. and you're right. part of it is about the fact that there is still gender discrimination in the labor market today. so women need to work harder and in many ways they have worked extremely hard to maybe this progress. >> some of us really liked being in school. my sense of it if i look back on my middle school and high school experience, i had a lot of friends in my schools go off to training in the middle of the day or after school. and i've really seen a decline in vocational training programs
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over the last decade or so. and those programs were mostly designed to get young men involved and skilled and taught up. i'm wondering if you think that has played a role at all in this gender gap? >> well, i think there are two things going. on first we have to acknowledge that good blue collar jobs as request opportunities for men to make a middle class living really have decline in our economy. so vocational training in general has declined. in our book, we talk about a two prong strategy. we absolutely need to get more young people through college. so there are jobs in our economy that demand college degrees or more advanced degrees. but at the same time, i agree, for example, obama and his state of the union address recently talked about the importance of
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getting more technical training. because our students today really need to understand how the, what they're doing in middle 62 and high school, absolutely is linked to their future success in the job market. whether that is white collar, highly educated profession, or a more skilled technical kind of profession. >> claudia, thank you so much for that insight. >> sure. up next, from the son of a gambling man to one of america's longest serving state governors, governor bob miller's lifestyle reads like the godfather but with a happy ending. [ mom ] 3 days into school break and they're already bored.
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one more way you're in good hands with allstate. ♪ our next guest started as the son of a casino in a place called las vegas. he grew up to be a jawinger thought you could bet the house on and the effects are still being felt today as he is enjoying his second material as secretary of state. how did a chicago family with roots on the wrong side of the law go on to live the american dream? the only man who can answer that question is bob miller himself, the author of "son of a gambling man." governor miller, thank you for joining us. first, i have a nasty habit, obnoxious habit of saying nevada. i will say nevada. >> except there. >> i'm correcting myself. your family's story is the story
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of the state of nevada which has become this large and the fastest growing state in the country and basically was built in the last 50 years. >> i hope that's accurate. my intent was to parallel the met morph os it is of my family with that of nevada, more particularly, las vegas. >> so we learned a little about your rough and tumble family. what impact did a lot of the lessons that you learned from your family have on your politics later in life? >> well, one lesson that i learned spi admired my father to do what he said he would do. and as one local attorney that is mentioned in the book said, that's probably because he was a bookie. as a bookie, you have to be true to your word. now, that's something i admire. as it related to my politics, it was an issue that was raised in every election that i ran. my father passed away before i
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ever held political office. nonetheless, he was there every election. at least in name. as others tried to bootstrap his associations to me. >> and governor, how have nevada politics george w. bush won the state twice. now president obama has won state twice. we've also seen huge shift in the latino demographics going from 20% in 2000 to 27% in 2010. have the politics there really shifted? >> it shifted a lot over the years. president clinton, of course, won the state also. perhaps that's why he wrote the forward to my book. because i ran that campaign, but nevada has historically been one that has a combination of a democratic and republican leadership in various offices. the demographics in las vegas have changed dramatically. we have many more hispanics moving into the community. much more democratic registration. that is a reason i think
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president obama has carried nevada the last two elections as opposed to previously when george w. bush did. >> so do you see nevada in the future becoming more and more blue, going more and more blue with the explosion of hispanics and latinos that will be there? or do you think it's going to be a swing state and go back and forth? >> i think we're always going to be in play. i think that the indications are it will be a little more blue, but it's always going to be a state in play. and it depends on the candidates, the election. it's interesting, because a small state like ours has received a lot of attention in the last several elections because we are a swing state. >> hey, governor, i just want to get one in really quickly, it's something i'm curious about. you know harry reid pretty well. comes from your state. how much longer do you think he's going to stick around as the majority leader in the senate? >> hasn't indicated to me one way or another. my opinion of harry, he's going to stick around as long as the electorate wil keep him there.
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he already indicated he wants to run in the next election a couple years from now. harry is a fighter. that's just his nature. he enjoys what he's doing. >> could you also quickly weigh in on the fight going on in new jersey? the lawsuit against new jersey trying to legalize sports betting and join nevada in that ranks. what do you think? >> well, of course, we in nevada prefer monopolies when we're the beneficiaries of monopolies. >> we all do. we all do. >> i think the nfl and ncaa would agree with you. >> yes. that's, of course, whbeen one o the limitations we have to experience by having sports betting, mayor sports franchises and ncaa tournaments stay away from us because of sports betting. new jersey would have that if they were successful in obtaining sports betting. but we were grandfathered in. i kind of like it that way. >> all right. former governor bob miller from nevada. thank you very much. up next, toure does what he does best. selling himself. i mean, his book.
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♪ s . prince made lots of fun pop music, but in becoming the sound track for our generation, he build a cannon filled with deep complex messages. everyone at this table is
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working on a book even if some of us are in the thinking stage. i'm fortunate to have finished one that comes out tomorrow called "i would die for you: why prince became an icon." i wrote it to explore the depth of prince's music, that wrestled with the spiritual imperative and sexual impulse. saturday night and sunday morning, wondering if the two can be merged in one life or one song. can we have both reverence for god and the fulfillment of the rawest carnal desires at the same time? his sexuality stands out to many, and rightly so. his spiritually was serious and solemn. he opens his album with a sermon, dear ly beloved we're gathered here to get through this thing called life. things are harder than in the after world. in this life you're not as close to god as you will be here on your own. this message could fit in most churches most sundays. when most of his rock gods were talking about sympathy for the devil, prince was delivering a